Ballast Sorry guys this thing as usual got outta hand ! But funny as Hell.
" It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." Aristotle
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Cheryl's Daily Diatribe: Wednesday, October 30, 2002
Is It the Beginning of the End for America?
There is certainly plenty of circumstantial evidence mounting already. On October 28,
"Common Dreams "reprinted an article first published in the Madison Times in April 2001
which describes the obsessive hatred G.W. Bush had of Wellstone http://www.commondreams.org/views01/0424-07.htm Here is an excerpt: "The Bushies
despise Wellstone, who unlike most Senate Democrats has been fighting spirited battles
against the new administration's policies on everything from the environmentto the tax cuts
for the rich to military aid for the "Plan Colombia" drug war boondoggle. Other Democratic
senators who face re-election contests in 2002 are, according to polls, more vulnerable than
Wellstone. But the Bush camp has been focusing highest-level attention on "Plan Wellstone"
— its project to silence progressive opposition."
Certainly looks as if "Plan Wellstone" achieved its goal of "silencing" Wellstone, doesn't it?
To give you an idea of just what sort of human beings we are talking about when we are
talking "Bushies," also known as "Freepers" (short for "Free Republic" — an outrageous misnomer for one of the most anti-freedom groups to ever hit the American scene), consider
for Wellstone, open to those wishing to post tributes or comments. The site was attacked
by Bushies with the infantile, vicious thuggery of the Nazis smashing windows of Jewish
homes and shops and covering their walls with obscene graffiti. Ghoulish, obscene, chillingly
sociopathic messages were posted that gloated over the death. These are Bush's strongest,
core followers — the love it or leave it, you're with us or against us,my country right or wrong,
pack of bigots whose colossal ignorance is surpassed only by their lack of compassion and
respect for any group other than themselves. These are Bush's devotees ... the Lord of the Flies and his maggots... http://www.unknownnews.net/cdd1030.html
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There was a time dolphins and science were more important than
people today nobody cares about either as much as they use to...
for a hot minute.
http://www.lizmichael.com/
Subject: A coupal O' Duces FYI's Fwd: Mystery of the Silver Rings & FW: Harvard
and the black educational elite References: Content-Type: multipart/related;
An America Apart
Thanks 2 R wrote: Life is Good! R ----Original Message Follows----
FW: harvard and the black educational elite >>POV: harvard and the black educational elite
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Harvard: The Strange Career of a Troublesome Institution By Shelton Amstrod
Issue Number 19 - December 5, 2002
There is not a more coveted degree by the status-starved Black elite than that which is
conferred by Harvard University. The Cambridge center of traditional American
Harvard University. The Cambridge center of traditional American intellectualism can lay claim to having stamped a goodly number of government and
industry leaders with its crimson imprimatur. A negro wearing a Harvard brand has
always earned special attention of the masses, mostly because of the white custom
of unilaterally elevating its negro matriculants to race leadership.
BlackCommentator.com has expertly repudiated Harvard's Randall Kennedy, who is
currently touring the lecture circuit telling whites for $25 a head that there is no longer.
any word that is objectionable in describing the Black race
has served to raise a deeper issue still. An internet search of Randall Kennedy reveals that
every single mention of this white man's trusty ne'er-do-well is appended to an equally
prominent mention of his affiliation with Harvard - an inferential certification of
Kennedy as a racial authority.
A study of early Black nomenclature reveals that emerging from the American slave
system, Blacks often took the name of the white man who had enslaved them as their
new surname. Thus, the former "Toby, President Washington's nigger" became Toby
Washington, and so forth. Kennedy has linked himself to Harvard - and they to him -
in precisely the same way, making themselves just as responsible for Nigger:
The Strange Career of a Troublesome Word as the nigger himself.
So, what is Harvard University to Black folks? And why have so many Blacks with
suspect motives, and having no organic relationship to any Black institution, been
placed in front of Blacks to speak on Blacks' behalf? Maybe it is time to examine the
legacy of this institution to understand the nature of those Blacks who so proudly wear
its brand. Such Blacks continue to be given extraordinary access to public airwaves to
opine on and interpret the Black condition for white America. More than a generation
ago Adam Clayton Powell confidently asserted that Harvard has "ruined more negroes
than bad whiskey." A brief racial history of America's intellectual Vatican puts its
special role, and Powell's biting assessment, in proper context.
Harvard College was founded in 1636 (just six years after the settlement of Boston)
with the intent of academically assisting the clergy in their attempts to brainwash the
Massachusetts Indians into accepting white European customs and religious beliefs.
In this they were wholly unsuccessful, having only graduated one Indian, who died just
a year later. Once conversion failed, the ol' Pilgrim/Puritan standby of massacres and
mayhem was employed, and the Red man was no longer welcome at Harvard. Thus, in
1698 Harvard tore down its "Indian College" and used the bricks to construct the new
Stoughton College--named for the family of the man who has been "credited" with the
annihilation of the Pequot Indians in 1637.
Quiet as it's kept, the slave trade was the primary economic force in the development
of Boston's elite, and most of that class were trained at Harvard. Puritan minister and
president of Harvard (1685-1701) Increase Mather held African slaves. Benjamin
Wadsworth, president from 1725-1737, was a member of one of the leading
slaveholding families in New England. "Servants are very Wicked," he once wrote,
"when they are LAZY and IDLE in their Masters Service. The Slothful Servant is justly
called Wicked..." In 1756, the First Parish Church at Cambridge was made off-limits to
Blacks when Harvard officials objected to their sitting in the gallery. In 1773 Harvard
hosted a debate in which Blacks were defined as "a conglomerate of child, idiot and
madman." Many of the early ship-owning slave traders of New England sent their
children to Harvard, as did many of the Southern plantation owners. The grand wizard
of the Massachusetts Ku Klux Klan graduated from Harvard in 1853. One of the most
viciously anti-Black newspapers in Boston history was run by a Harvard graduate.
A host of paragons of race hate acquired their intellectual bearings at this Cambridge
center of white supremacy, including many icons of American history. John Adams,
Samuel Adams, Josiah Quincy, Theodore Roosevelt, to name a few, have proudly
ascended to the upper echelon of America's racial villainy. John Adams "shuddered at
the doctrine" of racial equality and spoke in Hitlerian terms of "quieting the Indians
forever." Samuel Adams and Josiah Quincy both enslaved Black Africans.
Roosevelt voiced the common Harvard creed that Blacks were backward savages
who needed strong white rule to bring them into civilization. The Africans, this
Harvard-trained American president believed, were "ape-like, naked savages, who
dwell in the woods and prey on creatures not much wilder or lower than themselves."
Divinity school graduate Ralph Waldo Emerson asserted matter-of-factly that
"it is better to hold the negro one inch below water than one inch above it."
Harvard, a pillar of the Brahmin establishment, "did its best to stifle anti-slavery
[legislation]." When expelled German scholar Charles Follen sought refuge in
America, he found it on the Harvard faculty. But when he became an abolitionist in
1833, he was immediately fired. When Harvard graduate Charles Sumner criticized
slavery in a speech to the student body in 1848, Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
recorded the reaction: "the shouts and hisses and the vulgar interruptions grated on
my ears." Two of the college's honorable presidents, Jared Sparks and Cornelius
Felton, were strong supporters of the notorious Fugitive Slave Bill, which aligned the
northern "free states" with the Southern slave-owners in apprehending runaway Black
slaves. When a Southern slaveholder came up to a Boston court to use the fugitive
slave law to reclaim "his slave" Anthony Burns, Harvard students acted as the
slaveholder's bodyguards.
Distinguished Harvard graduate Lemuel Shaw was considered to be the most
influential state judge in American history. Shaw considered Blacks who escaped from
chattel slavery to be "fugitives from labor" and ordered their immediate return. When
two Black women were arrested in 1836 as escaped slaves, Shaw allowed the slave
catchers to correct their warrant so that they could re-arrest the Black women right in
his courtroom. The Blacks who came to court refused to stand by and allow for this
outrage and attempted to rescue the women. Shaw himself tried to stop them before
he was knocked to the floor during the successful escape.
As chief justice the Harvard-trained Shaw delivered the unanimous opinion of the
Massachusetts Supreme Court which upheld the legality of school segregation,
providing the basis for the doctrine of "separate but equal" - America's official racial
policy until 1954. Between 1872 and 1949 at least eleven state courts cited Shaw's
opinion to justify their own state's segregationist policies. (In 1956, when Virginia
Senator Robert Byrd read his infamous "Defiance: The Southern Manifesto" he was
joined by 19 Southern Senators and 70 Representatives, including J. William Fulbright
and Strom Thurmond. Byrd cited Shaw's opinion to buttress his last stand against the
Supreme Court's desegregation order.)
The many well-to-do Harvard students from Southern plantation families did not have to
long for the amenities of their beloved slavocracy; upon their arrival at the University
each cracker was given a Black servant they euphemistically called a "scout." All the
while Blacks served Harvard's white faculty and enrollees as janitors, custodians, and
waiters. The first record of these "scouts" at Harvard is noted by Samuel F. Batchelder,
in Bits of Harvard History, as he contemptuously recounts the tribulation of these unpaid,
overworked Harvard slaves:
What ebony face with rolling white eyeballs grins sheepishly at us
from this mildewed page? Who was this blackamoor who surreptitiously
helped himself to beer and (possibly under its influence) made so free
of little Sam Hough's bed? Have we not here the first darkey "scout"
of Harvard, progenitor of the whole tribe of college coons and great-
grandfather of all Memorial Hall waiters? What fluky breeze of
fortune wafted this dusky child of nature from a languorous coral
strand to the grim confines of Calvinistic Cambridge? Were colored
brethren already hanging round the Square looking for odd jobs ere
that classic forum had become clearly distinguishable from the
encircling wilderness?
But always, Blacks seeking to better themselves attempted to break through Harvard's
rigid racial barriers. When three Black men attended lectures at the Medical School in
1850, groups of white students protested their presence and prevailed upon the faculty
to expel them. Harvard president Charles Eliot (term 1869-1909) stated his belief in
separate educational facilities for Blacks and whites and suggested that Harvard may
implement such a policy. He maintained - quite accurately - that the white man in the
North is no less averse to the mingling of races than his Southern counterpart.
Race hater Louis Agassiz, the dean of the Nazi-approved philosophy of scientific
racism, and for whom a Harvard campus building is currently named, warned fellow
whites, "Let us beware of granting too much to the negro race...lest it become
necessary hereafter to deprive them of some of the privileges which they may use to
their own and our detriment." Agassiz found his views of the Black man warmly
received and echoed by Harvard deans Henry Eustis, who considered Blacks "little
above beasts," and Nathaniel Shaler, who believed Blacks "unfit for an independent
place in a civilized state." In 1922-23, President A. Lawrence Lowell barred Blacks
from living in the freshman dormitories saying, "We have not thought it possible to
compel men of different races to reside together."
Around that time, Harvard's venerable newspaper, the Crimson, excitedly
announced the presence of the school's very own Ku Klux Klan chapter.
Without a trace of indignation, it trumpeted the KKK's campus membership drive.
The paper even promised to respect the secret identities of the KKK leaders, and
announced the possibility of the establishment of the branch of the KKK called
Kamelia, the female KKK, at Radcliffe. By 1960 Harvard was writing letters to
white students asking if they had problems with being assigned a Black roommate.
(Black students received no such "courtesy.") In the '80s, Bell Curve author, the now
dead Richard Herrnstein, successfully restored Harvard's white-hooded
intellectual tradition, which seemed tohave been usurped briefly by some loud
but ineffectual liberal '70s campus activism.
So, here comes Randall Kennedy, bookending this tradition to the
proud nods of his white campus puppeteers. Ultimately, those Blacks
who seek to append themselves to this corrupt legacy will suffer a
shameful disgrace. For increasing numbers of Blacks today are
in complete agreement with the great "uneducated" freedom fighter
Fannie Lou Hamer, who could not have been clearer when
recounting the battles she fought for political representation
and justice:
Everybody that would compromise in five minutes was the people with
a real good education. I don't understand
that - I really don't to save my life.
Them folks will sell you -they will sell your
mama, their mama, anybody else for a dollar.
--Fannie Lou Hamerback
Shelton Amstrod is a researcher and editor at CBIA Publishing in Detroit.
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Editors Note this is not the White nigger or "white Nigger" by Eastern Europen
jewish author Norman Maler or that Niggers crazo or nigger from Heavard or even
the white Keffer or desendant of mythical "Quean of Sheba" turned lumpin proll
darkeyover night http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/2944922.stm but she can
still earn some money for any white willing to exploite her.
This should be called a white nicer as the name is not what they called them selvse.
Shortcut to Mind Control The Ultimate Terror
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Book Review Sex and Racism in America
Book Review. Sex and Racism in America by Calvin C. Hernton. I've
always been very curious why some people are against interracial ...
about time for a redo
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Subject: FW: About the white nigger
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 17:40:01 -0500
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 18:47:09 +0000
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Subject: FW: About the white nigger
T below is that link, about white slaves and the white nigger.....
be interested in hearing what you think about this....S
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Subject: About the white nigger
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 21:34:10 -0400
Know more about the "white nigger". An interesting
article from a website cataloguing a range of articles
about multiracial subject matter and cultural diversity.....
our American "founding fathers" might have been quite
out of their minds... ("might of?"...) Please read... shares
some insight......
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Jimmy Knepper, Versatile Jazz Trombonist,
Dies at 75 By PETER KEEPNEWS
Jimmy Knepper, a jazz trombonist best known for his productive but stormy association with Charles Mingus,
died on Saturday in Triadelphia, W.Va. He was 75.
The cause was complications of Parkinson's disease, his wife, Maxine, said yesterday from their Staten Island
home. Mr. Knepper was living temporarily at the home of his daughter, Robin Rios, in Triadelphia, Mrs. Knepper said.
Over the course of a career that began when he was in his teens, Mr. Knepper was a featured soloist in countless
bands, big and small. But his reputation as one of the most original trombonists of his generation rests largely on
the music he made with Mingus from 1957 to 1962.
Mr. Knepper's distinctively gruff sound and loose-limbed phrasing were essential elements in some of the most
celebrated albums by Mingus, the great bassist and composer, including "The Clown," "Tijuana Moods" and
"Mingus Ah Um."
The jazz critic Leonard Feather wrote that Mr. Knepper's "solos with Mingus are intricate, beautifully structured and
complete statements."
But relations between the plain-spoken Mr. Knepper and the notoriously volatile Mingus were often tense, and they
came to an abrupt and violent turning point during preparations for a New York concert in 1962. Mr. Knepper recalled
in a 1981 interview with Lee Jeske of Down Beat magazine that in the course of an argument about Mr. Knepper's
role as music copyist for the concert, Mingus "just kind of slapped me in the mouth," and the blow "just happened to
break off my incisor."
The injury seriously affected Mr. Knepper's embouchure; it took him several years to regain his full range on the
trombone.
Mingus was convicted of third-degree assault (his sentence was suspended), and a fruitful collaboration was
seemingly ended forever. Surprisingly, though, Mr. Knepper worked with Mingus again in the 1970's, appearing on
the album "Let My Children Hear Music" in 1971, at a Carnegie Hall concert in 1976 and on the last three albums
Mingus recorded before his death in 1979.
Mr. Knepper characterized his return to the Mingus fold as a kind of grim inevitability.
"It was very depressing to think that I'm linked with this guy for the rest of my life," he told Down Beat in 1981,
referring to his earlier days with Mingus. "And now I feel the same way."
The link proved enduring: he spent much of the 1980's as a member of Mingus Dynasty, a group devoted to playing
Mingus's music and made up primarily of former Mingus sidemen.
James Minter Knepper was born in Los Angeles on Nov. 22, 1927. Although he was not yet 30 when he first worked
with Mingus, he was already a seasoned veteran, having spent time in several big bands, including those of Charlie
Barnet, Woody Herman and Claude Thornhill. During his five years with Mingus, he continued to work occasionally
for other bandleaders, most notably Stan Kenton. In 1960 he went to Africa with a small group led by the flutist
Herbie Mann, and in 1962 he was a member of the Benny Goodman ensemble that toured the Soviet Union.
Mr. Knepper recorded only occasionally as a leader or co-leader, and he never led a band of his own. But if he was
something less than a star, he was greatly admired by fellow musicians for his skill as an improviser and for his
ability to function comfortably and creatively in any context. He played in the pit bands of several Broadway musicals
and, from 1968 to 1974, with the Thad Jones-Mel Lewis Jazz Orchestra. Throughout the 80's and 90's he regularly
toured Europe as a freelance soloist.
In addition to his wife, Maxine, a former jazz trumpeter, and his daughter, Ms. Rios, he is survived by four
grandchildren. Mr. and Mrs. Knepper's son, Timothy, died in Los Angeles in 1991 at age 34, she said.
Mr. Knepper once said that jazz "shouldn't be taken very seriously" and that "in a
lot of ways, it's just shallow, superficial and pyrotechnical." But whether or not those
words were a true reflection of his feelings, he always played jazz with great passion
and fervor - even if he found it a less-than-ideal way to make a living.
"It's hard for a jazz musician to live a rational life, unless he has an independent
income or a busy maximum of work," he said in 1977. "You really have to be
dedicated to the music to be able to survive."
© New York Times, 1987
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Discography
Will follow ED.
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May you live in interesting times.This says it all: Quote of the day..."You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, The Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the US of arrogance, and Germany doesn't want to go to war."
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Counterintelligence: Recommended Tools
for Media Analysis
They Were White and They Were Slaves:
The Untold History of the Enslavement of
Whites in Early America by Michael A. II Hoffman
The Nub of IT..
6 of 6 at people at Amazon.com found the following review helpful:
This cause makes emotional sense, June 7, 2000
Reviewer: J. Jiumaleh from USA Slavery was a curse on our nation from its founding and Jefferson had to strike paragraphs decrying it from the Declaration of Independence or lose the support of southern states. It remained a hot political debate throughout the country's early history but regardless of the strong feelings it evoked, no one was yet prepared to go to war over it.
Tenzer's book helped me understand on an emotional level what would make a northern farmer or tradesman pick up arms and go to fight his countryman in this terrible war. What made a difference was the threat he felt slavery posed to himself, his way of life and to his children and
grandchildren. Even now we hear of atrocities in far away places and send money or write our leaders but rarely get personally involved. Tenzer's thesis is that many historical events coincided in the middle 1800s to convince northerners that their own rights and freedoms were or would be threatened by legal slavery and its expansion. He has the historical documentation to show that the eroding line between slave and free was much on the mind of the average person and contributed to the country's willingness to take up arms over an issue that had so far only risen to the level of a disagreement.
While I would like to think that the north was full of abolitionists so disgusted by slavery that they were willing to risk their lives to end it, Tenzer's book suggests that most were only willing to get involved when the threat began more personal. This is sadly consistent with human behavior and struck me as one of the best explanations for why the war happened when it did and received the support it did in the north.
Another part of the book that was fascinating to consider was the discussion of miscegenation and the historical situation of mixed-race people. Too often the subject of propaganda and stereotype, Tenzer shows how statistics on mixed-race people were manipulated to create
notions of sickliness and inferiority which still plague that group today.
I was stunned to see how much of what was passed off as "science" then (a very self-serving science for a small group of elites) is still largely accepted as fact today.
"The Forgotten Cause" is an important addition to every Civil War buff's reading list. It should stimulate lots of thought including some worrisome questions about why this "cause" has been forgotten in our politically correct times.
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The Forgotten Cause of the Civil War: A New Look at the Slavery Issue by Lawrence R. Tenzer
 7 of 7 people found the following review helpful: American History, as taught, has ignored this thesis., February 8, 1998 Reviewer: joeaaii@aol.com Strong evidence, painstaking research that may explain why 'the war to free the slaves' did not provide any civil rights for the freed slaves until a second 'war' a century later. The thesis that capital owns labor is still alive and this book provides evidence of intentions to make slaves of all workers (poor, black or otherwise). Much of this mindset has not changed today only the catch phrases and nuances have changed.
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"Some Poltrunes wont or cant quit!"
5 of 10 people found the following review helpful: Historically innaccurate, May 12, 2000 Reviewer: A reader from Georgia : Tenzer's main tenant that white slavery was a very real and powerful emotive force can not be seriously contemplated. If Lincoln and the northern states were really worried about the possibility of white slavery would it not have been simpler to have attempted to create a new federal law, or implement a racially discriminatory law into the american constitution which would then ultimately have resolved this issue and prevented the war. Tenzer's arguement is interesting, but can not be treated as a serious explanation for the war itself. We need only look at the way in which blacks received greater equality in the north than the south since the war to realise segregation was an issue predominant in the south than the north. And that civil rights for blacks would create irreconcilable division between the north and the south which would have lead to prolonged or further conflict. Therefore Tenzer's arguement can only be seen as an underlying factor which may have been exploited for political reasons in the north, but on the whole is nothing more an exaggeration of a feeling amongst a small minority and entirely inconsequential to the actual causes of the war.
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Paperback: ; Dimensions (in inches): 0.75 x 8.75 x 5.75 Publisher: Scholars Pub House; (November 1997) ISBN: 0962834807
Excellent! Shows that slavery was a threat to whites,
J uly 22, 1998 Reviewer:A. D. Powell
(see more about me) 2 of 5 people found
the following review helpful:
Irish American - NOT African American May 2, 2003 Michael Morris Healy, an Irish immigrant, arrives in the United States around 1815 and
establishes a plantation near Macon, Georgia. Healy and his mulatto common-law wife,
Eliza Clark Healy, have 10 children. All of the children are sent North to be educated,
baptized as Catholics, and leave any social disabilities of Georgia behind them. The children achieve great success as Irish-Americans:
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Tenzer also destroys the argument of those neo-Confederates (like Ashcroft) who contend that the Southern states (called The Slave Power in the North) were merely resisting the tyranny of a federal government. The Slave Power effectively controlled Congress and
the Presidency for most of the antebellum period. The "3/5
Rule" gave congressmen from the slave states the right to represent slaves (people who obviously couldn't vote), thereby giving them far more power than they would have received
if they had been limited to repre! consenting free persons.
Southern Strategy in its earliest stages.
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R@wman Says
"It all boils down to expensive books. Books all this stuff
is likely about books never written, things never said.
Why because real people have lives too complicated by
living to take the time to explain them, and then they die." ED
If they were a little swifter they would have figured out things, like voting & writing has
an accumulative effect on the people around you and where as I recon shooting people
and linching people up just changes the surface not the root cause which is not color
but attitudes about life, any one is suspect after the Donor Party, which was a warning
sign way back then, when the going gets tough the tough get there knife and forks.
Our TV Hero
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As promised the so called white Niggerclick the pages to go to Amazon.com
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Poverty breeds hate and so on
Knockemstiff, Ohio http://www.forgottenoh.com/knockemstiff.htmlAttaboy hear is your "white" liberal, check out what she has to say..
"As a white woman in my early 50s..."
 by Donna Lamb
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October/November 2000
As a white woman in my early 50s, like many people of my generation and ethnicity, I've had only the most superficial contact with hip hop music or dance over the years. When I've had the good fortune to come upon hip hop dancing being performed on the street or in a city park--usually by a group of about 4 or 5 African American and Latino young men--I've been
so rivetted Icould hardly tear myself away to continue on with
my activities...
Therefore, I was so glad when, earlier this year, in DanceAfrica 2000 at the Brooklyn Academy of Music
in New York City...
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This thing really works! 
R@wman says" I love Shusi, and If they are so smart why can't
Flipper tell them how to keep out of the Tuna fisherman's nets.
Maybe the Dolphins should replace the Turkys as guest for Thanksgiving. "In the province of the mind, there are no limits."
January 06, 1915 - September 30, 2001
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FYI http://www.johnclilly.com/ John C Lilly
Thanks 2 Clayton Mystery of the Silver Rings
Project Delphis: Mystery of the Silver Rings Mystery of the Silver Rings. by Don White, Creator of Project Delphis.
The young dolphin gives a quick flip of her head, and an undulating ... http://www.earthtrust.org/delrings.html
by Don White, Creator of Project Delphis
The young dolphin gives a quick flip of her head, and an undulating silver ring appears--as if by magic--in front of her.
The ring is a solid, toroidal bubble two feet across--and yet it does not rise to the surface! It stands erect in the water
like the rim of a magic mirror, or the doorway to an unseen dimension. For long seconds the dolphin regards its
creation, from varying aspects and angles, with its vision and sonar. Seemingly making a judgement, the dolphin
then quickly pulls a small silver donut from the larger structure, which collapses into small bubbles. She then
"pushes" the donut, which stays just inches ahead of her rostrum, perhaps 20 feet over a period of up to 10 seconds.
Then, stopping again, she regards the twisting ring for a last time and bites it--causing it to collapse into a thousand
tiny bubbles which head--as they should--for the water's surface. After a few moments of reflection, she creates
another.
This isn't fantasy, it's real. And it isn't magic, just marvelous. It is a rare dolphin behavior, and we first saw it in the
play of two baby dolphins. It gives us a little more insight into the superb level of control dolphins can exercise on
their water environment, and underscores the fact that we can still discover things about dolphins by simply
watching them.
I first saw this behavior on one of my relatively rare trips out to the Delphis lab; the project's principle scientist Ken
Marten said that "the two babies, Tinkerbell and Maui" had been doing it for a little while. My reaction: "Wow, neato.
How the heck do they DO that? Try to get some photo and video shots of it. It sure is cool". Ken, along with Suchi
Psarakos, Research Assistant and computer programmer, did indeed document the silver rings (although video and
photos don't do the rings justice), and this has made it possible to both analyze the physics behind the phenomenon
and to watch the dolphins do this trick in slow-motion.
As it turned out, small silver rings weren't the only toys the dolphins were making for themselves: some of the
creations were as large as a basketball rim. And Tinkerbell proved able to create a silver helix, spiraling perhaps 20
feet long, that would spring into life in a fraction of a second and remain stable in the water as she swam past,
observing it with sonar and vision then--presto! she would grab a small silver ring from the helix to play with, while the
rest of the helix degraded into bubbles which would belatedly "remember" to rise to the surface.
This was a wonderful mystery to ponder. My attempts at re-creating the rings in a swimming pool succeeded only
in getting water up my nose, but my guesses were confirmed--with better and more rigorous explanation--by the
fluid dynamics class of Suchi's close friend Hans Ramm at Scripps Institute of Oceanography.
The silver rings, as it turns out, are "air-core vortex rings", and the helices are a similar phenomenon. Invisible,
spinning vortices in the water are generated from the tip of a dolphin's dorsal fin when it is moving rapidly and turning.
According to Hans: "Being unstable without a boundary nearby, the vortex line tends to form into a more stable form
such as a helix. When the dolphins break the line, the ends are drawn together into closed rings. Owing to the
Bernoulli effect, the higher velocity fluid around the core of the vortex is at a lower pressure than the fluid circulating
farther away. Air is injected into the rings via bubbles released from the dolphin's blowhole." The energy of the water
vortex is enough to keep the bubbles from rising for a reasonably long period--on the order of 10 seconds. There also
seems to be a separate mechanism for producing small rings, which a dolphin can accomplish by a quick flip of its
head.
There is little doubt that this is what is occurring. However, understanding the physics should not diminish our
appreciation of this spontaneous act of creation by a dolphin mind. These young dolphins have detected, understood,
and manipulated a subtle aspect of their environment, for no reason other than play.
Creation of these rings by dolphins isn't new. (far from it--dolphins were probably blowing magnificent silver rings while
our anscestors were hanging off tree limbs). It does seem to be a relatively rare behavior, though: it has been seen
before only in specific group of dolphins documented by Diana Reiss and Jan Ostman at Marine World. "The fact
that ring-blowing is rare and that we have two babies doing it suggests that one baby learned it from the other",
comments Ken Marten. "Whether it was a case of observational learning, or one "taught" the other, we don't know...
but it'd sure be interesting to know."
The social situation also seems to affect ring-blowing: " The babies made them most intensely when they were the
only two dolphins in the tank and when there was only one adult. The behavior stopped entirely when they were
outnumbered by adults, " observed Suchi. "During one intense s